DUCATI ECU and BBS Tuning (Racing EVO) for aftermarket exhaust

Andy7

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I wonder if you’ll be able to buy a ‘slip-on’ to fit into the current Akra headers that are available.
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BMW Alpina

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Well, if they just let me know last year that they will be releasing an official Akrapovic under tail exhaust, I would have wait and just buy this one because I am sure the fitment and everything will be perfect.
I believe (and I hope still the same policy), you can get upmap if you show your bike is not going to be used on the street and write an affidavit.
I guess I will find out in the next few weeks when I will try to upgrade my map to the official Akrapovic full system (the old one not this new one) upmap.
However, I already invest way too much money, time and effort with my SC-Project WSBK exhaust with Termignoni Silencers modified that I actually already fall in love with mine and nothing change my love for errr my current exhaust 🤪

Actually, here is a good song that I will sing to this new undertail Akrapovic system:
 

ggok

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BMW Alpina

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Thanks @ggok ,
This is already on my next equipment to buy list because this is very useful and like you said can do almost everything the Ducati Diagnostic tool have.
 

BMW Alpina

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Hello @ggok,

I have not done any research yet, but if you had experience this before and know the answer, please kindly advise me.

So, after I started my engine with the new exhaust yesterday, I noticed the check engine line on the dashboard is now on.
a. Is there any way to check the OBD code (error code) without using any diagnostic equipment since I don't have any at this moment?
(Note: I just purchased the OBDStar iScan for Ducati and the Texa dual charging cable, but they won't arrive until at least 2 weeks from now).

b. I also installed the module to bypass the exhaust valve and I also install back the front and rear O2/Lambda sensor on the new exhaust pipe before I started the engine, but why do I still get error?
From what I recall, this O2/Lambda sensor was located BEFORE the stock catalytic converter on the original stock exhaust so I don't think it detect the change without catalytic converter...
Or maybe because my bike now run too lean? or maybe the check engine light come out because it detect too much contaminant from the oil in the SC-Project exhaust (that usually come with new exhaust)?
Or maybe from you post above, this could be because my oil is very low because now I see on the window that the oil is below the minimum level... hmmmmmmm

Please kindly help and advise. Thanks from Howard

Edited: because I just bought the OBDStar iScan
 
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ggok

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Hello @ggok,

I have not done any research yet, but if you had experience this before and know the answer, please kindly advise me.
So, after I started my engine with the new exhaust yesterday, I noticed the check engine line on the dashboard is now on.
a. Is there any way to check the OBD code (error code) without using any diagnostic equipment since I don't have any at this moment?
(Note: I just purchased the OBDStar iScan for Ducati and the Texa dual charging cable, but they won't arrive until at least 2 weeks from now).

b. I also installed the module to bypass the exhaust valve and I also install back the front and rear O2/Lambda sensor on the new exhaust pipe before I started the engine, but why do I still get error?
From what I recall, this O2/Lambda sensor was located BEFORE the stock catalytic converter on the original stock exhaust so I don't think it detect the change without catalytic converter...
Or maybe because my bike now run too lean? or maybe the check engine light come out because it detect too much contaminant from the oil in the SC-Project exhaust (that usually come with new exhaust)?
Or maybe from you post above, this could be because my oil is very low because now I see on the window that the oil is below the minimum level... hmmmmmmm

Please kindly help and advise. Thanks from Howard

Edited: because I just bought the OBDStar iScan
I don't think it is the cause of the error because the suspension and bypass module for the exhaust servo motor are installed.

Most of the MIL lights I experienced were caused by temporary exhaust servo motor errors and O2λ sensor errors caused by forgetting to connect the connector.
There are many reasons why the MIL lamp lights up. It is difficult to find the cause from the video.

By the way, when I was watching the video, there were a few things that bothered me.
When the MIL lamp turned on, it appeared that the fluid was not filled in the brake oil cup.
When the main key is turned on, the ABS pump solenoid valve is tested for proper operation.
If the front brake line is not filled with fluid, air is drawn into the ABS pump unit.
The air in the unit can only be removed by a special method with the diagnostic unit connected.
You can probably do this with an OBDSTAR device, but you should also work at a Ducati dealer for your safety.

Also, I think it is the first time to start the engine after modification, but have you been able to expel the air in the radiator line?
An engine coolant temperature sensor error also illuminates the MIL lamp.

If the MIL lamp is illuminated due to a transient error, start the engine and allow it to idle until the cooling fan is activated.
Then turn off the primary key. If you do this same operation 3 times, the MIL lamp will turn off.

If you want to investigate the cause immediately, buy a few dollars of the odd2 tool on Amazon. 😜
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BMW Alpina

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Thanks ggok, I already contacted the dealer to perform the UPMAP, waiting for them to respond since they closed (holiday) every Monday (yesterday).
Yes, I don't have any front brake line and caliper installed for now, still waiting for the Ohlins FGR400 new forks to be released by Ohlins.
I guess, it's either the dealer fix it, or I tried to cycle 3 times, or wait until OBDstar arrived.
Thanks again for your guidance.
(y)😀
 

MaverickiB

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Thanks ggok, I already contacted the dealer to perform the UPMAP, waiting for them to respond since they closed (holiday) every Monday (yesterday).
Yes, I don't have any front brake line and caliper installed for now, still waiting for the Ohlins FGR400 new forks to be released by Ohlins.
I guess, it's either the dealer fix it, or I tried to cycle 3 times, or wait until OBDstar arrived.
Thanks again for your guidance.
(y)😀
Wait, you haven't had the UpMap applied yet? Did you use a healtech or other termination module for the exhaust flapper valve?

If the plug for the exhaust flapper is just sitting there without anything attached, there's your error code. The Akra map disables that circuit entirely.
 

BMW Alpina

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Wait, you haven't had the UpMap applied yet? Did you use a healtech or other termination module for the exhaust flapper valve?

If the plug for the exhaust flapper is just sitting there without anything attached, there's your error code. The Akra map disables that circuit entirely.
Hi MaverickiB,
I have not install the UpMAP yet, still trying to get appointment with the dealership.
I did plug the Healtech Exhaust Valve bypss module BEFORE I start the engine.
I can't wait for the OBDStar module to arrive to check what is the code.
 

ggok

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It is very good to share useful information with other DUCATI owners.
However, I don't want the sales price to rise in the future, and if it is based on my post, the introduction on other forums is not very pleasant. Why don't you put a link to the DUCATI MODIFY site? Interested people will visit the site.

I like the atmosphere of the DUCATI MODIFY site. That's why I post a lot on this site.
 

Andy7

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the introduction on other forums is not very pleasant.

I like the atmosphere of the DUCATI MODIFY site. That's why I post a lot on this site.
I visit the other forums and eat my popcorn while people argue. There are some very experienced members who post great info there sometimes, often you have to look back through the archives.

But everyone here is constructive and enjoys seeing what crazy ideas each other comes up with. Every day I learn a lot from both the frequent & infrequent member posts. Quality > quantity
 

BMW Alpina

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I read on the product page of the MS50: http://www.obdstar.com/Products_271.html
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and wondering if this is really can work with the way Ducati distribute their UPMAP...

In fact, I will be very interested in purchasing a device that can upload Ducati Official Akrapovic UPMAP to the ECU.
From my understanding, right now, Ducati dealer can only upload the official UPMAP to the ECU after the VIN number of the bike was registered into the Ducati Server/Computer system as a bike equipped with Akrapovic official exhaust. This mean the Ducati tool at Ducati dealership need to be able to login into the Ducati server/computer system.
And if I am not mistaken, only official Ducati dealership can get the login access to this Ducati server/computer system.

If those access is available to non Ducati official dealer (for a price of course), than I am quite interested.
 
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