DUCATI Panigale V4 25° Anniversario 916 BUILD Thread

BMW Alpina

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Happy New Year!! just cruising by and checking out your bike, I want to say wow!!!!! cant wait to see the final in a video....
Thank you so much @Tsaico

My progress in modifying my 2 Ducatis slow down considerably, due to work load at the office, my new (but old) house need a lot of attention, my cars also need attention, and lately, I am doing a lot of research for my new home audio system...
I guess, I am taking too much task at the same time aka greedy 😅

Anyway, I have a small update, I plan to simplify the way I mount the current RCS Corsa Corta brake and clutch MC so I bought these:
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I have so many things I still need to install on both Ducatis... I just need time to do it... hopefully in the next 2 or 3 weeks from now, I can focus on MODIFYING my Ducatis again :cool:
 

PanigalePilot

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Thank you so much @Tsaico

My progress in modifying my 2 Ducatis slow down considerably, due to work load at the office, my new (but old) house need a lot of attention, my cars also need attention, and lately, I am doing a lot of research for my new home audio system...
I guess, I am taking too much task at the same time aka greedy 😅

Anyway, I have a small update, I plan to simplify the way I mount the current RCS Corsa Corta brake and clutch MC so I bought these:
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I have so many things I still need to install on both Ducatis... I just need time to do it... hopefully in the next 2 or 3 weeks from now, I can focus on MODIFYING my Ducatis again :cool:
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My recommendation for subwoofer is a Seaton Submersive made by Mark Seaton in the USA
 

BMW Alpina

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My recommendation for subwoofer is a Seaton Submersive made by Mark Seaton in the USA
Thanks @PanigalePilot ,

I prefer to avoid using subwoofer and just using 2 main speakers. I feel that a pair of good main speaker should have enough bass on it self, without help from subwoofer.
A few years ago, I had the Bowers & Wilkins 804D3 for a year or so, but I sold them because they don't have enough bass, and too much treble. Mostly cause their 2 x 6.5" woofer per speaker is not powerful enough to balance their diamond tweeter, plus the midrange drivers in 804D3 was a smaller 5" diameter, instead of the regular 6.5" midrange in the larger 800 series.
I could partly solve the bass issue by buying a subwoofer, but I decided against it, because it still will not solve the issue with "thin" midrange.

I plan to purchase the Bowers & Wilkins 801D4 or Focal Maestro Utopia Evo (both have 2 x 10" woofer per speaker) or Magico S7 (with 3 x 10" woofer per speaker) for my system, because they should have enough bass extension and tonal balance so I don't have to use a subwoofer.
Currently I am using a pair of JBL L100 Classic Mk2 (each speaker has 12" woofer) as a temporary speaker.
I haven't heard the sound of my JBL since I don't have the amp to drive it yet, and for sure, it won't have the "imaging," "resolution", or bass extension of an 801D4, but I think the JBL should be a fun speaker for now until I can get the 801D4 or the Focal Maestro Utopia Evo.

I am also waiting for my McIntosh MA12000-AN 75th anniversary integrated amplifier that is currently on the way from the McIntosh factory in New York to my dealer,
so, hopefully, in 2 weeks, I can start listening to music "properly" again while working on my bikes 😉

Oh, the McIntosh has tone control (8 band Eq), which is enough to adjust the bass/midrange/treble if needed.
My new Technics SACD/Internet Streamer is also coming from my dealer to me as we speak.
 

PanigalePilot

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Thanks @PanigalePilot ,

I prefer to avoid using subwoofer and just using 2 main speakers. I feel that a pair of good main speaker should have enough bass on it self, without help from subwoofer.
A few years ago, I had the Bowers & Wilkins 804D3 for a year or so, but I sold them because they don't have enough bass, and too much treble. Mostly cause their 2 x 6.5" woofer per speaker is not powerful enough to balance their diamond tweeter, plus the midrange drivers in 804D3 was a smaller 5" diameter, instead of the regular 6.5" midrange in the larger 800 series.
I could partly solve the bass issue by buying a subwoofer, but I decided against it, because it still will not solve the issue with "thin" midrange.

I plan to purchase the Bowers & Wilkins 801D4 or Focal Maestro Utopia Evo (both have 2 x 10" woofer per speaker) or Magico S7 (with 3 x 10" woofer per speaker) for my system, because they should have enough bass extension and tonal balance so I don't have to use a subwoofer.
Currently I am using a pair of JBL L100 Classic Mk2 (each speaker has 12" woofer) as a temporary speaker.
I haven't heard the sound of my JBL since I don't have the amp to drive it yet, and for sure, it won't have the "imaging," "resolution", or bass extension of an 801D4, but I think the JBL should be a fun speaker for now until I can get the 801D4 or the Focal Maestro Utopia Evo.

I am also waiting for my McIntosh MA12000-AN 75th anniversary integrated amplifier that is currently on the way from the McIntosh factory in New York to my dealer,
so, hopefully, in 2 weeks, I can start listening to music "properly" again while working on my bikes 😉

Oh, the McIntosh has tone control (8 band Eq), which is enough to adjust the bass/midrange/treble if needed.
My new Technics SACD/Internet Streamer is also coming from my dealer to me as we speak.
great taste in motorcycles and hifi 👍
 

Spooky

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I use ATC active speakers - no worries with amp matching and they sound pretty awesome. I’d only change them for the same but higher up the range. I’ve been using a Chord Dave and M-Scaler with Auralic Aries G2.1 streamer but I’m going to sell the Chord stuff as I downgraded to an Auralic Vega G2.1.
 

BMW Alpina

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Thanks @PanigalePilot and @Spooky , for the kind words and audio suggestion.

On related audio topic,
This past few weeks, I have been busy working on upgrading my house's electricity/wiring (especially some electric outlets showing that no ground was connected). It turns out, somehow, the old house owner combined the ground to the neutral terminal in several electric outlets, causing my testing equipment to show no ground (ground fault).
Then I also had to drive 800 miles in 1 day to pick up my McIntosh integrated amp a few weeks ago...
Then more work with upgrading the electrical outlet socket to hospital grade 20amps outlet.
I still have more electrical works to do in the next few weeks, but I will try to also continue working on my 2 bikes...

However, I found out that working a lot with Titanium bolts can bring good inspiration 😉

So last year, my office was doing some cleaning up, and the R&D dept. decided to throw away many precision billet/machined/CNC aluminum parts... When I saw it, I told them, I will take the parts that I like and they can throw the rest (that I don't like).
Found a lot of treasure, including several Titanium tube, but the nicest parts are these 4 pillars and thick aluminum plate (picture below). So I then ask my younger son to mirror polish all of these parts:
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Then, I buy some nice Titanium Nuts, Drilled Washer and Bolts from RaceTech Titanium. (I can buy from ProTi for the bolt, but in this case, they will be hidden from below, plus I don't want to wait a few weeks for ProTi bolts to arrive):
Beside the Drilled Washer from RaceTech Titanium is the PERFECT diameter and only them have it. ProTi/ProBolt don't have this type of drilled Titanium Washer in this size. Not to mention the Titanium Nuts from RaceTech Titanium has such a gorgeous design:

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I used this Titanium hardware to secure the 4 pillars below the thick aluminum plate:
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And now my one of a kind RECYCLED Precision CNC Machined Billet Aluminum amp rack is ready for my McIntosh MA12000 75th anniversary edition integrated amp 😎, they do look mesmerizingly classic:
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Oh... and since then, I also spent a lot of time just chilling, relaxing, listened to music... that is also why I am so behind with my 2 Ducati projects 😅
 

Monsta

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Another Weekend, Another Updates:

I install the rest of the ENGINE ProTi Titanium Bolts, this time for the lower belly pan.
I have "extra" ProTi Titanium Bolts, so I also install for the Oil Filter Cover (the original lower belly pan bolt from ProTi does not include this 3 bolts).
I also replace several mounting bolts like to mount the plastic Canister on the left side or the housing for the right exhaust valve with the "extra" ProTi Titanium Bolts.
Oh, also the rear cylinder coil bolts (and I will order more bolts for that center cylinder head breather cover). I think I also going to remove the upper radiator so I can access the front cylinder coil too.
At that time, I think I need to be reasonable and not get too carried away (although now I let my self get carried away 😅:
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Then, since I plan to install my 17RCS Corsa Corta Master Cylinder along with the Bike Sport Development Switch next week, I decided to DRAIN all brake fluid directly from the ABS.
(I also plan to replace the Banjo bolt on the ABS with ProTi Titanium Banjo bolts plus my new obsession with the cooper nickel solid/hardline upgrade 😀),
so if I start draining it now, hopefully by next weekend, all brake fluid will be mostly drained... (still need to be careful if some left in the brake line, don't want to have any chemical marks from the brake fluid).

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I’m doing the proti hardware on my oil pan right now what was the toque you used on your oil pan?
 

BMW Alpina

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I’m doing the proti hardware on my oil pan right now what was the toque you used on your oil pan?
Sorry for the late response, been busy with many things as usual...
I put 10Nm of Torque for the bolts on the oil pan.
 

Monsta

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Sorry for the late response, been busy with many things as usual...
I put 10Nm of Torque for the bolts on the oil pan.
Thanks for the reply. I spoke with the Ducati mechanic at my dealership and 5nm +/-10 percent is what I used. I told him the process I used was replacing one for one and the seal was not disturbed. I did follow your advice on the bolts that needed sealant. No leaks at all yet it’s been two days. Bikes full of oil I’m gonna heat cycle it today a couple times.

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DucatiSG

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wow wow WOW! Just incredible! I'm so glad I found your thread. I can really appreciate how much work and thought and time went into this build. I wouldn't be able to hesitate from riding it every single day, but wow, just looking at it is a joy. I have modified my bike quite a bit but the level of detail that went into yours is astonishing. Can't wait to see an updated shoot with everything on it.
 

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Thanks so much for the kind words @DucatiSG
I still have more to do with this bike, but I plan to finish my other bike first, the 998 (which I have a separate build thread in this forum too).
Because, the 998 engine need to be tune, and at this moment, I worry if I am not finish with the 998 as soon as possible, I might not be able to find anyone who can tune it anymore since most people who know the 998 start retiring 😅
 

PanigalePilot

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I am very envious of the McIntosh MA12000. It looks just beautiful. I recently purchased a LNIB Denon AVR-X7200W. It is a 11.2 processor but I will just use 4 channels into a 7 channel 200 wpc Amplifier called an ElektraHD. It will be bi amped and bi wired into some Krix Neuponix speakers. This is just for my workshop in the garage where I can play my favourite CD's while working on the bikes.

Oh and by the way I have a new project on the way.
 

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I am very envious of the McIntosh MA12000. It looks just beautiful. I recently purchased a LNIB Denon AVR-X7200W. It is a 11.2 processor but I will just use 4 channels into a 7 channel 200 wpc Amplifier called an ElektraHD. It will be bi amped and bi wired into some Krix Neuponix speakers. This is just for my workshop in the garage where I can play my favourite CD's while working on the bikes.

Oh and by the way I have a new project on the way.
Hi @PanigalePilot , wow, that is a nice system for your workshop, we have many similar hobbies (y) I also can't wait to learn from your new project. Please share with all of us here. Thanks again
 

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I have a quick update on this project.
I only need to order 1 more set (final connection) for my brake hose upgrade. It took me a few days to figure out the best connection. Originally, I was going to use a distribution block to split the hose from the ABS to both front calipers. But this is no longer possible because the Motocorse Lower Triple Clamp does not have mounting holes to mount the distribution block. Also, the Motocorse design does not allow me to drill holes and tap it without making it look ugly.
So the best solution is to install the Tee Splitter on the Ducati Performance original carbon fiber mudguard. Which means I need to install the front mudguard before I can perform the measurement.
This also means I need to install the custom Melotti Racing front mudguard WSBK bracket to mount the Ducati Panigale V4S original carbon fiber mudguard to the Ohlins RVP25 WSBK forks' bottom.
I did all the above and am currently waiting for Goodridge to produce my CUSTOM Final brake hose assembly.

The Melotti Racing bracket was custom painted in Red Anodized Color and attached to the Ohlins RVP25 bottom using ProTi Titanium Bolts:
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Look at how the Red Anodized Painted Mellotti racing bracket peek out between the Ohlins RVP25 and the carbon fiber mudguard:
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Oh, I forgot to mention, that I still need to install a custom aluminum spacer between the Melotti Racing bracket and the Ducati Performance Panigale V4S carbon mudguard to clear the thicker diameter Ohlins RVP25 tube:
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I am mounting the original brake hose onto the original clip on holder of the Carbon mudguard just for measurement reference:
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Then measure the angle and length to both left and right brake calipers, while counting the Staubli drybreak quick disconnect length and location of course. Oh, I also need to make sure it will fit the different location/angle of the Staubli when I upgrade the brake caliper to the GP4-LM caliper in the future.

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PanigalePilot

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Hi @PanigalePilot , wow, that is a nice system for your workshop, we have many similar hobbies (y) I also can't wait to learn from your new project. Please share with all of us here. Thanks again
I will surprise you when it gets here. Another Ducati but this one from Japan coming by ship. ETA is 12 June but then customs clearance and I will have to go pick it up with my trailer. I am on hold at the moment for work on the old Ducati Darmah SSD900 as my workshop has become so messy I need to clean it up. I am currently making a hardwood bench to sit my Drill press on. At the same time I just finished making a custom CF bracket to mount a oil catch can in my car. But then ended up rerouting the heater hoses to clean up the engine bay. I then noticed something a little untidy in the inlet tract so have to fix that but needed a M20 x1.5mm tap. That arrived today so hopefully finnish that tomorrow and then back to the wood bench and tidying up. The I can start to reassemble the SSD. Then back onto the 1199S. Somewhere have to find time to get the CF fuel tank for the 1199S to the painter. Never enough time in the day. An essential for the workshop some JD.

I attached a photo of two aluminium tubes. NB the weight of the tubes is 122.4 grams. These are called bevel towers on the very old 1970's to 80's Ducati. I got the aluminium on ebay for $15 AUD and a freiend turned down the outer diameter and cut to length on his lathe. It saves 200 grams from the OEM steel ones.

The last photo shows a aluminium clutch basket from Germany that saves 498 grams over the OEM steel one.

As usual Howard your front end is goine to look very cool. Nice Work.
 

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